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Старый 29.05.2018, 03:35   #1901
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с другой стороны по статистике 1,5 млн украинцев играет. Имхо лучше играть в лотерею каждую неделю. Шансы +- одинаковые, только не ждать 1 год результаты
а это хорошая идея


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Старый 1.07.2018, 00:25   #1902
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Houses near the Bay Bridge in picturesque, but prohibitively pricey, San Francisco. Housing costs have skyrocketed as the tech industry has drawn lots of high-paid workers to the area.CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times
By Karen Zraick
June 30, 2018

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In the latest sign of the astronomical cost of living in parts of California, the federal government now classifies a family of four earning up to $117,400 as low-income in three counties around the Bay Area.

That threshold, the highest of its kind in the nation, applies to San Francisco, San Mateo and Marin Counties. It’s used to determine eligibility for federal and local housing assistance programs. (But it’s different from the federal poverty guidelines.)

To generate the number, officials at the Department of Housing and Urban Development factor in the median income and average housing costs in an area. The second-highest threshold is in Honolulu, according to the agency — but the third is also in the Bay Area, in Santa Clara County, the heart of Silicon Valley. The New York City area, where a family of four earning up to $83,450 is classified as low-income, came in at No. 9.

Back in the Bay Area, residents and experts said they weren’t surprised.

“It sounds ridiculous, but it’s not,” said Richard A. Walker, a professor emeritus of geography at U.C. Berkeley and the author of a recent book about the tech boom and displacement in the Bay Area. As the tech industry has drawn legions of highly paid workers to the area, home prices aren’t the only thing that has gone up. Transportation, utilities and food are also costly.

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“It’s arguably the most expensive city in the country, so what that translates to is really not that much money,” said Ed Cabrera, a Housing and Urban Development spokesman who is based in San Francisco. “Especially with children in an area where properties are considered affordable if they’re going for half a million dollars.”

The federal government pegs the “fair market rent” for a two-bedroom in the San Francisco area at $3,121. The median home price has climbed above $1 million, according to a recent report by the California Association of Realtors, and sales are robust.

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The “low income” designation allows people to qualify for affordable housing and a variety of government programs, like ones for first-time home buyers.

But officials noted that a vast majority of San Francisco-area residents who get direct housing assistance, like the vouchers known as Section 8, are well below the maximum low-income standard: The average household that receives assistance makes just $18,000. And the average wait time to make it into subsidized housing is 64 months.

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In neighboring San Mateo County, officials say the housing stock — primarily single-family homes, many on picturesque cul-de-sacs — lags far behind demand. Many residents who have been forced to move farther inland now face grueling commutes to their jobs.

“We’re the epicenter of the affordability crisis we’re seeing in the hotter markets throughout the U.S.,” said Ken Cole, the county’s director of housing.

“What it means on the ground is that teachers, first responders, people who grew up here of average income are being forced out by the high prices,” he said.

He called for building new, higher-density housing along rail lines. Others, including Mr. Walker, say the state should abolish a state law that limits rent control and consider other steps to cool the overheated market.

“The very success of the place undermines the viability of life for at least the lower half, if not the lower two-thirds,” Mr. Walker said. “And those are the people who get forgotten in the narrative of the glamour of tech changing the world.”

Kate Hartley, director of the San Francisco Mayor’s Office of Housing and Community Development, said high construction costs and low federal funding had added to the challenges of keeping low- and middle-income people in the city.

“What makes the Bay Area great is its diversity, its creative and innovative economy, and its free spirit,” she said.

“But the harder it is to house our artists, teachers, restaurant workers, health care providers,” she added, “the more we put that great spirit and strong economy at risk.”


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Старый 1.07.2018, 00:28   #1903
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/us/bay-area-housing-market.html

Скопировал, т.к. идет по платной подписке и ссылка может не открываться - потребует заплатить.

Кто не знает английского языка, вкратце, семья имеющая доход в месяц ниже 10000 долл. Считается малообеспеченгой , нищей - имеющей право на пособие. Настолько дорого снять кв в Сан-Франциско.

Bay Bridge in picturesque, but prohibitively pricey, San Francisco. Housing costs have skyrocketed as the tech industry has drawn lots of high-paid workers to the area.CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times
By Karen Zraick
June 30, 2018

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In the latest sign of the astronomical cost of living in parts of California, the federal government now classifies a family of four earning up to $117,400 as low-income in three counties around the Bay Area.

That threshold, the highest of its kind in the nation, applies to San Francisco, San Mateo and Marin Counties. It’s used to determine eligibility for federal and local housing assistance programs. (But it’s different from the federal poverty guidelines.)

To generate the number, officials at the Department of Housing and Urban Development factor in the median income and average housing costs in an area. The second-highest threshold is in Honolulu, according to the agency — but the third is also in the Bay Area, in Santa Clara County, the heart of Silicon Valley. The New York City area, where a family of four earning up to $83,450 is classified as low-income, came in at No. 9.

Back in the Bay Area, residents and experts said they weren’t surprised.

“It sounds ridiculous, but it’s not,” said Richard A. Walker, a professor emeritus of geography at U.C. Berkeley and the author of a recent book about the tech boom and displacement in the Bay Area. As the tech industry has drawn legions of highly paid workers to the area, home prices aren’t the only thing that has gone up. Transportation, utilities and food are also costly.

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“It’s arguably the most expensive city in the country, so what that translates to is really not that much money,” said Ed Cabrera, a Housing and Urban Development spokesman who is based in San Francisco. “Especially with children in an area where properties are considered affordable if they’re going for half a million dollars.”

The federal government pegs the “fair market rent” for a two-bedroom in the San Francisco area at $3,121. The median home price has climbed above $1 million, according to a recent report by the California Association of Realtors, and sales are robust.

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The “low income” designation allows people to qualify for affordable housing and a variety of government programs, like ones for first-time home buyers.

But officials noted that a vast majority of San Francisco-area residents who get direct housing assistance, like the vouchers known as Section 8, are well below the maximum low-income standard: The average household that receives assistance makes just $18,000. And the average wait time to make it into subsidized housing is 64 months.

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In neighboring San Mateo County, officials say the housing stock — primarily single-family homes, many on picturesque cul-de-sacs — lags far behind demand. Many residents who have been forced to move farther inland now face grueling commutes to their jobs.

“We’re the epicenter of the affordability crisis we’re seeing in the hotter markets throughout the U.S.,” said Ken Cole, the county’s director of housing.

“What it means on the ground is that teachers, first responders, people who grew up here of average income are being forced out by the high prices,” he said.

He called for building new, higher-density housing along rail lines. Others, including Mr. Walker, say the state should abolish a state law that limits rent control and consider other steps to cool the overheated market.

“The very success of the place undermines the viability of life for at least the lower half, if not the lower two-thirds,” Mr. Walker said. “And those are the people who get forgotten in the narrative of the glamour of tech changing the world.”

Kate Hartley, director of the San Francisco Mayor’s Office of Housing and Community Development, said high construction costs and low federal funding had added to the challenges of keeping low- and middle-income people in the city.

“What makes the Bay Area great is its diversity, its creative and innovative economy, and its free spirit,” she said.

“But the harder it is to house our artists, teachers, restaurant workers, health care providers,” she added, “the more we put that great spirit and strong economy at risk.”


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Старый 2.07.2018, 10:15   #1904
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Кто не знает английского языка, вкратце, семья имеющая доход в месяц ниже 10000 долл. Считается малообеспеченгой , нищей - имеющей право на пособие. Настолько дорого снять кв в Сан-Франциско.
Ну, давайте уточним - не на пособие, а может претендовать на социальное жилье.
С другой стороны - рент, это, в основном, карма приезжих - поэтому нефик ехать в Бэй Ареа если тебе не предложили хорошую работу.


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Старый 2.07.2018, 23:59   #1905
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Вы ошибаетесь. В том районе почти все вынуждены снимать. Читать статью не помешало бы.

Кроме того, а как жить в этом случае учителю или продавцу в Валмарте?

Да и от тюрьмы не зарекайся. В тамошних компаниях массовые увольнения случаются тоже. В самых что ни на есть наипрестижнейших. Уволили - как тогда платить этот рент?

Да и такие места везде где есть работа. Там в статье про это есть. В деревнях ее нет - там и рент под зарплату в 10 долл в час. В месяц 1000+ после налогов.


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Старый 8.07.2018, 00:08   #1906
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Мне в прошлом году в туристической визе отказали.
Думаю что преддыдущее мое участие в гринкарде тоже сыграло роль.
После отказалась подавать на гринкард, тем более что планируют отменить лотерею.
Я участвовал в лотереях ГК несколько раз и после этого с первого раза получил тур. визу в США.


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Старый 31.10.2018, 20:30   #1907
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А чего новую лотерею не обсуждаем? Или есть другая тема?

Правила на украинском: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam..._Ukrainian.pdf
Страница для подачи заявки: https://www.dvlottery.state.gov

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Старый 31.10.2018, 22:06   #1908
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А чего новую лотерею не обсуждаем? Или есть другая тема?
а их тут несколько, но активность, да, до прошлых лет не дотягивает.
Наверное Трамп многих напугал....
Или Польша ближе стала....


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Старый 1.11.2018, 00:31   #1909
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Думаю, оба факта


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Старый 1.11.2018, 00:43   #1910
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а их тут несколько, но активность, да, до прошлых лет не дотягивает.
Будет интересно сравнить количество подавших заявки с прошлыми годами. Самый высокий пик был в 2015 году. В 2016 был небольшой спад. Интересно, представляет ли этот спад начало нового тренда (за 2017 год пока что статистики еще нет).
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Наверное Трамп многих напугал....
Казалось бы... Наоборот, если пугают закидоны Трампа насчет ограничений иммиграционной политики, то наоборот нужно поспешить и запрыгнуть в последний вагон уходящего поезда.

Инфа по заявкам за прошлые годы.


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Старый 1.11.2018, 01:11   #1911
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Казалось бы... Наоборот, если пугают закидоны Трампа насчет ограничений иммиграционной политики, то наоборот нужно поспешить и запрыгнуть в последний вагон уходящего поезда.
Закидоны Трампа касаются многого, и главное, они очень громкие. А потенциальные иммигранты редко копают глубоко.

Эх, за что я люблю статистику: вроде оба графика говорят об одном и том же. Но если надо поговорить про "кровавую диктатуру Путина", надо показывать первый, а если про
провальную социальную политику Украины - то второй.


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Старый 2.11.2018, 16:18   #1912
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О, надо заявку заполнить, чуть не забыл


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Старый 7.11.2018, 21:21   #1913
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О, надо заявку заполнить, чуть не забыл
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