[lx9]

Hi, guys!

Do you know any English Clubs in Kharkov?
Maybe some good place, where all interested people can come and improve their speaking English:)
I know, it's very popular in Moscow. People get together in Cafe and introduce, communicate etc.
I would like to go to the same party, if it's available in Kharkov :yahoo:

(sorry for my crooked English)

[juliya25]

О, I want go to English clubs too.

[Yerkwantai]

to improve english you have to communicate with native speakers, otherwise you'll just pick up the mistakes of other people

[Giacomo]

to improve english you have to communicate with native speakers, otherwise you'll just pick up the mistakes of other people

Not necessarily. Anyway I'm not sure there are enough native speakers of English in Kharkov to match the demand.


P.S. Mistakes are an inevitable part of a learning process. Practice makes perfect. :класс:

[Yerkwantai]

You have to listen to the correct speech to rectify your own mistakes, otherwise you will automatically make the same mistake again and again... No doubt, such clubs would be better than nothing, they may help to speak rather fluently, but they won't help you to understand people outside the club (with funny accents for instance).

[Giacomo]

You have to listen to the correct speech to rectify your own mistakes, otherwise you will automatically make the same mistake again and again... No doubt, such clubs would be better than nothing, they may help to speak rather fluently, but they won't help you to understand people outside the club (with funny accents for instance).

You can always listen to the BBC ;)

Honestly, I just don't know what 'the correct speech' is. You can have two
people from London (both native speakers) who won't understand each other.
Really.

[Yerkwantai]

Listen - yes. But you cannot talk to the BBC :D

Well, that is the rare example, in most cases they manage to understand each other somehow. But that is not the point, you cannot compare the grammatically and phonetically incorrect speech of the foreigner with various ways to pronounce the words, which is the cause of the problem in your example.

[буля 25]

I want to improve my English too. Lets meet soon samewhere?

[maxkit]

You have to listen to the correct speech to rectify your own mistakes, otherwise you will automatically make the same mistake again and again... No doubt, such clubs would be better than nothing, they may help to speak rather fluently, but they won't help you to understand people outside the club (with funny accents for instance).
There's no such thing as "correct speech". It reminds me of a scene of "Snatch" movie, when an American claimed that England spawned the language, but it seemed that nobody used it anymore.
As well you can watch movies, listen to radio and read books. English books and movies are better (in contrary to American ones), because of grammar and vocabulary.

[weed]

I agree with you. Reading english books will help you a lot. However there are so many foreigners in Kharkov that speak english. They are always willing to help. This helps them too. You help them with Russian they in return help you with English. I also advise whoever is interested to look for the British Council in Kharkov. (it used to be in Karazin a few years ago. I dont know whether its still open)

[smart2]

I have an idea! You can write what you want to say other people and read the answers from them and then give mouth these dialogs. Тhus you can improve your english. :-)

[Yerkwantai]

There's no such thing as "correct speech". It reminds me of a scene of "Snatch" movie, when an American claimed that England spawned the language, but it seemed that nobody used it anymore.
As well you can watch movies, listen to radio and read books. English books and movies are better (in contrary to American ones), because of grammar and vocabulary.

Whatever. You all know what i meant by "correct English", the English that the native speakers consider as "correct", and not the language mixed with anglicised words and confused meanings that is not understood well outside the small group.

[Yerkwantai]

just read most of the messages here to see my point

[smart2]

О, I want go to English clubs too.

Lets go togever!

[Nastusia]

Lets go togever!

May I go with you and Juliya25? Who knows how to translate "сообразим на троих"?:D

[smart2]

May I go with you and Juliya25? Who knows how to translate "сообразим на троих"?:D

I dont know how to translate, but I agree, where is do we need to go or stay and talk here?

[олюня]

could you please help. where do you usually buy English books, English moovies? especially movies

[lx9]

May I go with you and Juliya25? Who knows how to translate "сообразим на троих"?:D

I want to join you :)
It's better to get together than to discuss about it in forum.

Yes, reading the books and watching TV - good idea... but our English won't never fluent without speaking practice :rolleyes:

[Kurtevich]

Who knows how to translate "сообразим на троих"?:D
Decide on three. :D

[Nastusia]

I want to join you :)
It's better to get together than to discuss about it in forum.


Wellcome! :) I think we need to go somewhere for speaking...

[maxkit]

Whatever. You all know what i meant by "correct English", the English that the native speakers consider as "correct", and not the language mixed with anglicised words and confused meanings that is not understood well outside the small group.
AFAIK there are six major accents in London actually, not to mention a bunch of American ones. So it's rather hard to tell "correct English". But in fact it's quite easy to tell incorrect ones.

[Giacomo]

May I go with you and Juliya25? Who knows how to translate "сообразим на троих"?:D

Let's have a party :D

[maxkit]

May I go with you and Juliya25? Who knows how to translate "сообразим на троих"?:D
It depends on what you are about to say. It may even be "Let's do threesome" :-)

[буля 25]

Let's have a party
When? where?

[Giacomo]

I won't be in Kharkov-city until the end of June.

[diment69]

I know a place, where one can easily find native speakers (especially. when they show football there :) ). It's Irish Pub.

[Giacomo]

I know a place, where one can easily find native speakers (especially. when they show football there :) ). It's Irish Pub.

Is there an Irish pub in Kharkov? :eek:

It seems I have been away for a long, long time.

[diment69]

Is there an Irish pub in Kharkov? :eek:

It seems I have been away for a long, long time.

Yeah, It's at the corner of Petrovskogo and Mironositskaya street - rather cozy place.

[woobiloow]

Irish Pub is no good guys.
But you can find many ppl who speak American or British English in Universities. For example 'ХПИ' university has many foreign students if u talk 2 them they'll invite u 2 their home church. This is the best experience for all of u so far....
Plus I recomend watching TV shows in English. Such as "Prison Break", "Heroes", "Lost", "24", etc. etc.
Plus play lineage 2\ WOW @ official servers. You'll have english team-speak there. Plus try to find a jod as a translator if you want to improve English.
There are many ways.
But the main question I ask when ppl come to me and say that they want to learn English is: "Y do u need it for" ?
P.S. Retarted ppl won't understand the word "retarted" lol
Ty.

[Giacomo]

Yeah, It's at the corner of Petrovskogo and Chernishevskogo street - rather cozy place.

Thanks for the info, pal :)

[diment69]

Thanks for the info, pal :)

Not at all! :)If we really meet there, It would be very well :)

[Glebasyan]

could you please help. where do you usually buy English books, English moovies? especially movies

You can check that stock "shivorot navivorot", there are many english books and cds, and very cheap by the way....good luck

[diment69]

You can check that stock "shivorot navivorot", there are many english books and cds, and very cheap by the way....good luck

By the way, each license DVD-movie has a source language option.

[maxkit]

Irish Pub is no good guys.
But you can find many ppl who speak American or British English in Universities. For example 'ХПИ' university has many foreign students if u talk 2 them they'll invite u 2 their home church. This is the best experience for all of u so far....
Plus I recomend watching TV shows in English. Such as "Prison Break", "Heroes", "Lost", "24", etc. etc.
Plus play lineage 2\ WOW @ official servers. You'll have english team-speak there. Plus try to find a jod as a translator if you want to improve English.
There are many ways.
But the main question I ask when ppl come to me and say that they want to learn English is: "Y do u need it for" ?
P.S. Retarted ppl won't understand the word "retarted" lol
Ty.
Not that I'm a racist, but you better avoid those Indian students with their accent :-)

P.S. "Retarted"? Do you mean "retarded"? Or maybe you mean people that were granted the second shot with a tart? :-)

[KRAK]

I know a place, where one can easily find native speakers (especially. when they show football there :) ). It's Irish Pub.

Especially people from Cork :ржачь:

[Hardgr]

So is there going to be an english-speaking "forumovka" or what?

[CRNBS]

I was wrote some idea few days ago
sense of idea it is talk with native speakers via Skype
Realy, many people in world want to learn russian and if we are will go to in the skype forum - we are see it.

If U are have internet at home - then it is real possibles

[Giacomo]

So is there going to be an english-speaking "forumovka" or what?

You mean an off-line meeting, don't you? :D

[Glebasyan]

to tell the truth i do not know any, but i know German club that Nürnberg house, I would like to go there but at the moment my german is so poor that im shy to go there not to get embarased. :)

[AlexDe]

If you need to regularly talk with a native, check with English schools. Occasionally, they invite interesting and cheerful guys who enjoy talking, learning and sharing. But hurry up, as the most of the schools are going to be closed during the summer.

Another idea is to meet a Peace Corps volunteer here in Kharkov. As a part of their mission, they organize and lead English Clubs.

[Glebasyan]

if im not mistaken it's those guys which wear suits and badges on their chest? to tell the truth they look like some sect. but anyway if you areso eager to learn you may try them....

[AlexDe]

if im not mistaken it's those guys which wear suits and badges on their chest? to tell the truth they look like some sect. but anyway if you areso eager to learn you may try them....

You’re referring to Mormons who, by the way, are also native speakers.

But I meant guys from Peace Corps which is an US federal agency.

“The Peace Corps traces its roots and mission to 1960, when then Senator John F. Kennedy challenged students at the University of Michigan to serve their country in the cause of peace by living and working in developing countries. From that inspiration grew an agency of the federal government devoted to world peace and friendship.
Since that time, more than 190,000 Peace Corps Volunteers have been invited by 139 host countries to work on issues ranging from AIDS education to information technology and environmental preservation.
Today's Peace Corps is more vital than ever, working in emerging and essential areas such as information technology and business development, and committing more than 1,000 new Volunteers as a part of the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief. Peace Corps Volunteers continue to help countless individuals who want to build a better life for themselves, their children, and their communities.”

[Glebasyan]

ok than, no arguments bud! So, I mistook that peace corps with that mormons, but if these mormons were 100 times native speakers, I wouldn't even look at their side! Cause they look like that sect of witnesses of Jehovah.

[Корвин]

So....it is too many words...it is to hard for my English :))))....I propose to create English club for that people, who wants to upgrade their skills :) . I propose fix days, when we can meets. Like tuesday, friday , saturday at night. P.S forgive me for my not correct albanian. I'am not wizard, a'm just study

[quiteimpressed]

Hi,
I was just talking about starting an english conversational class to challenge the religious majority of native speakers here in Kharkov. An english course where we speak about interesting topics instead, umm, like ..umm. Ok, there must be some.

I was thinking of sitting in a nice cafe maybe saturday morning; somewhere like Metropol in the sunshine. Anyone interested ?

[Victoria77]

There is one in Kharkiv. It's not only for kids and teens. It's Magic Camp and Magic Club as a part of it. МММ.magiccamp.НЕТ
Unfortunately, they've got a poor update of their site.

[Romanchik]

Guys,
I posted smth like this last year..but...unfor4unately..the Idea failed. I counted near 15 people for the first meeting..but non of those who were eager came. Whatever, there is always a chance to think over and arrange smth like a forum party or flash mob)))). Aaaand..by the way...this is the very link I wrote, folks))) http://www.kharkovforum.com/showthread.php?t=74893&highlight=english+speaking+parties

[websitedevelop]

split the bottle three ways

P.S. Если тебе стыдно заглядывать в словарь, значит ты ничему не научился... (с)

[quiteimpressed]

Ok. I have decided to have an english club on Saturday morning. In the worst case I will have a quiet coffee by myself. Hmm, or maybe that is the best case.
So I will be sitting in Metropol cafe at 11am (Saturday 31st May to be clear) . I will be the one who looks like an englishman.

If Metropol is not suitable then someone suggest somewhere better. Particularly if it rains.

[quiteimpressed]

Roll up roll up.

Tomorrow 11am Metropol na Sumskoi. There will never be another english conversational class like this ! No mention of God or the speaker will go to hell.

The weather promises to be typically english but Metropol has big zontik.

I'm so excited .... in fact so excited my french droog is coming too ; for all you francophiles out there in Kharkov land.

[caprise]

Do you think that nattive speakers don't make mistakes? Actually you mistake even in Russian

[Sumra4naja]

There is one church organization somwhere in Kharkov, that provides English speaking courses for free. There are people from USA mostly. Many of my friends (from school and Univercity later) went there and perfected their English very much. Unfortunately, I don't know the adresses neither phones of this organisation, but is someone is interested, I can ask...

[w1nn1ght]

Because... The can.... one..... LOL

[Eva_Brown]

I have read everything above ;) There were funny suggestions
Everything is much more simplier: right in the centre of our city, in the hotel "Kharkiv" (enter in front); don't remember a floor and a room (you may ask, or I can precise). There is Speaking Club absolutely free every Saturday - near 11 a.m.: friendly people, skilled leader (professional translator has been lived abroad), interesting topics, no rules exept mutual respect. This Club is someth. like charity of eng. teaching organization (don't remember name, doesn't matter indeed). So you could come and speak))
It's strange for me noone knows about. I'm sure it's not the only one place in Kharkiv.

[Skodavod]

Вот здесь можно пообщаться на английском English Club Kharkov (http://www.english-club.cover.com.ua)
Сайт новый еще не сильно раскручен, но место уже есть.

[Miras]

Hi,
I was just talking about starting an english conversational class to challenge the religious majority of native speakers here in Kharkov. An english course where we speak about interesting topics instead, umm, like ..umm. Ok, there must be some.

I was thinking of sitting in a nice cafe maybe saturday morning; somewhere like Metropol in the sunshine. Anyone interested ?

Metropol? it hears interesting, but are we alone?

[Miras]

I have read everything above ;) There were funny suggestions
Everything is much more simplier: right in the centre of our city, in the hotel "Kharkiv" (enter in front); don't remember a floor and a room (you may ask, or I can precise). There is Speaking Club absolutely free every Saturday - near 11 a.m.: friendly people, skilled leader (professional translator has been lived abroad), interesting topics, no rules exept mutual respect. This Club is someth. like charity of eng. teaching organization (don't remember name, doesn't matter indeed). So you could come and speak))
It's strange for me noone knows about. I'm sure it's not the only one place in Kharkiv.

is it old side or new side of hotel?

[_Malinka_]

так чё, так всё и затихло?.. не договорились встречаться и практиковать англ?..

[Marjani]

Hello, everyone!
English speaking with a native speaker in Kharkov.
One hour of group class costs $30. A group consist of 5-7 people.
Such study is very differnt then at our schools with local teacher. But it is more efficient for everybody who wants to improve their speaking skills.
Contact person - Irina 8050 688 31 95

[Rusty]

Hello, everyone!
English speaking with a native speaker in Kharkov.
One hour of group class costs $30. A group consist of 5-7 people.
Such study is very differnt then at our schools with local teacher. But it is more efficient for everybody who wants to improve their speaking skills.
Contact person - Irina 8050 688 31 95

А от 30 баксов ни у кого ничего не слипается, извините?
Кто хочет ходить на Speaking CLUB, то такая услуга сейчас БЕСПЛАТНО есть есть на большинстве курсов. В основном - это суббота. Как вариант - Open CLUB в Рэйнбоу на Сумской. Каждая суббота, 14.00 - 16.00. Но можно и ещё поискать. Было бы желание ходить на такие клубы, а не на форуме о них писать...

[Marjani]

Конечно же есть и бесплатные курсы. Только какие там преподаватели, которые совсем и не преподаватели. Для общей практики в языке и так пойдет конечно. Но на самом деле, если нужна серьезная подготовка то этим не обойтись. В так называемых бесплатных спикин клабах, занятие проводят иностранцы приезжающие с религиозной миссией. И понятно у них нет задачи научить вас языку, а познакомить аудиторию со своей верой. Тогда зачем ходить на такие занятия, где собирается как минимум по 15 человек, если можно на улице с мармонами познакомиться. Они с виду - хорошие люди, всегда с удовольствием общаются. Я так и делала! Приглашали друг дружку на общественные мероприятия. Они с легкостью идут на контакт. Еще есть летний канадский институт - потрясающая вещь! Не знаю как в этом году, но раньше проводился в МАУПе. 6 часов общения на английском каждый день в течении 3-х недель.